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Varying Viewpoints Podcasts



Varying Viewpoints Podcast Series is one of the many initiatives of the Proctor Institute to share and promote innovative scholarship that focuses on diversifying leadership, enhancing equity, and fostering justice in higher education in an engaging and accessible way. This series will highlight the great work of scholars, researchers, authors, and activists who are advocating for more just practices in higher education as well as elevating the contributions of Minority Serving Institutions.

Episode 19: Discussing the Jewish Perspective at HBCUs

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, Leah Hollis, one of our fabulous visiting scholars and Associate Professor at Morgan State University, invited Joseph Drew, a professor at the University of Maryland Global Campus and a former professor at the University of District of Columbia, to join us. They unpack what it means to be a Jewish scholar at a Historically Black College or University (HBCU) and the general relationship between Jewish people and African American people. Joseph highlights his experience growing up during the Civil Rights Movement and how this shaped him into the person he is today. Additionally, Joseph notes the inherent similarities between Black and Jewish culture that has made HBCUs a safe and nondiscriminatory space for Jewish scholars. 

Listen to this episode to learn more about Joseph’s life and his positive experiences with HBCUs as a Jewish scholar.

Proctor Institute · Episode 19: "Discussing the Jewish Perspective at HBCUs" with Joseph Drew

Episode 18: Inspire and Educate: What is your Legacy?

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Frederick Shegog, founder of The Message, LLC and notable keynote speaker, to join us. During the interview, Frederick talks about how his challenging, yet eye-opening experiences inspired him to become the leader he is today. He shares how important it is to empower communities and encourage self-awareness in students who often experience self-doubt. Frederick speaks about how crucial it is to obtain effective mentorship in college professors who encourage your growth and help to increase your network. He also shares how essential it is to practice meditation, surround yourself with positive people, exercise, and have a healthy diet. One of his greatest takeaways for students is to focus on mental, physical, and emotional health just as much as academic studies and graduation requirements. 

Listen to this episode to learn more about how effective mentorship and maintaining a healthy lifestyle can play a huge role in shaping your life for the better.

Episode 17: Teach, Speak, Create: How to Be an Effective Diversity Leader as an Educator

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Michael Hicks, assistant professor of education at Centenary College of Louisiana, to join us. Michael talks to us about his role as an educator of future educators and how he teaches leadership techniques. He created the “Teach, Speak, Create” model in an effort to inspire himself and others to be effective leaders, especially through the lenses of diversity, inclusion, and equity in K-12 and higher education. Michael concludes with a discussion about the experiences and the values that continue to propel him to be authentic, to champion fairness, and to advocate for justice. 

Listen to this episode to learn more about Michael’s role as an educator and a diversity and fairness leader, as well as advice on how to become an effective one yourself. 

Episode 16: Advocacy in Social Work: Addressing Whiteness in Marginalized Communities

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Sarah Todd, social work professor and the director of Carleton University’s School of Social Work to join us and interview with our Communications Intern, Sharaya Morrison. Sarah’s background includes research in many areas related to social work and community practice. She touched on how broad social work in communities can be and further discusses what whiteness and privilege look like in marginalized communities. Sarah also shares how important it is for white people to take full advantage of their privilege by using it to advocate for economically disadvantaged communities. 

Listen to this episode to learn more about how to uplift marginalized communities and educate individuals on how to stand up for marginalized peers in a way that embraces their social identity. 

Episode 15: Trauma is An Invisible Backpack: How that Backpack Affects Students, Educators, and Communities

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Karen Gross, a consultant to non-profit schools, organizations, and governments, to join us. Karen’s work focuses on strategies for vulnerable student success across the K-20 pipeline, with a focus on the impact of trauma on educational outcomes. A frequent author, speaker, and commentator on issues in education, she is the author of the newly released, award-winning book Trauma Doesn’t Stop at the School Door, where she addresses the omnipresence of trauma in education. Throughout this episode, Karen takes us through theories of trauma and highlights some of the tools and strategies to combat trauma for students and educators alike. 

Listen to this episode to learn more about Karen’s work and how to identify and combat trauma in education. If you would like to learn more about trauma and concrete strategies on how to address it, the Proctor Institute will be holding an event of the same name with Karen Gross as the keynote speaker on January 26, 2021, at 1 PM EST. For more information and registration, visit us here


Episode 14: Fulfilling Diversity or Fostering Genuine Inclusion? The Rocky Relationship between PWIs & their Students of Color

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Yolanda Wiggins, an assistant professor of sociology at San Jose State University, to join us. Yolanda highlights her research on educational inequality and explores the role that families play in students' feelings of inclusion at higher education institutions. Additionally, Yolanda digs deeper into how diversity initiatives are often surface-level interventions that don't solve students' problems and her recommendations for how to mitigate this issue on college campuses. She mentions how Predominantly White Institutions (PWIs) can learn from Historically Black Colleges and Universities' (HBCUs) models for student support, among other propositions, to help students of color succeed. Yolanda also notes how this moment of political uprising will, hopefully, change how higher education institutions address racial equity and justice. 

Listen to this episode to learn more about Yolanda's research and her recommendations for how higher education institutions can better serve their students of color. 


Episode 13: "More Black People in Prison than in College:" The Harm of Bad Statistics

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Ivory Toldson, a professor of Counseling Psychology at Howard University, president of Quality Education for Minorities (QEM), and Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Negro Education to join us. Ivory highlights his substantial work around harmful repercussions of "B.S.," or bad statistics, and misinformation on Black people often found in media sources and sometimes 'reputable' research. Ivory also notes several common misconceptions about Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs). 

Listen to this episode to learn more about Ivory's scholarship and the dangers of misinformation being spread about Black people. 


Episode 12: Workplace Bullying: Breaking Down the Barriers 

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Loraleigh Keashly, a professor of Communications at Wayne State University to join us. Loraleigh talked about the topic of workplace bullying and how prominent this issue is becoming today, as people are becoming more open to sharing their experiences with bullying. Loraleigh notes how the generational shift in work culture has been a huge help towards addressing workplace bullying especially since the younger population tends to be more focused on the quality of their work environments. She also offers some helpful tips and strategies for navigating workplace bullying within and outside of academia. 

Listen to this episode to gain some more insight on the implementation of policies against workplace bullying and to learn more about how targeted individuals can alleviate their trauma from their experiences. Special thanks to Morgan State University Associate Professor and Visiting Scholar, Leah Hollis, for hosting this episode of our Varying Viewpoints podcast series.


Episode 11: The Presence of Workplace Bullying: Effects of Chronic Stress

In this episode of the “Varying Viewpoints” podcast series, we invited Ingrid Tulloch, an assistant professor at Morgan State University and director of Morgan State’s Animal Research Facility, to join us to discuss workplace bullying. Ingrid specializes in the Neurobiology of Risky Behavior, and uses her research to identify the role of chemicals in the brain - specifically inflammatory cytokine genes - when individuals respond to common stressors and chronic stress. She defines the stressors that may be prevalent in an individual’s life, and explains the connection between chronic stressors and reliance on risky behaviors, and how these environments may cause biological changes in the body.  Ingrid also addresses how race and socioeconomic standings have an impact on not only how people are discriminated against, but how one faces chronic stressors as well.

Listen to this episode to learn more about Ingrid’s research and how chronic stress may have an impact on a person’s health and body. Special thanks to Morgan State University Associate Professor, Leah Hollis, for hosting this episode of our Varying Viewpoints podcast series.


Episode 10: No Justice, No Peace: Colleges and Campus Police

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, our John Smartt Summer Scholars Steffi Huynh, Tiyana Herring, and Miranda Febus invited Roderick Ferguson, Professor of Women, Gender and Sexuality Studies and American Studies at Yale University, to join them. Roderick talks about police presence on campus and the impact it has on students, especially as it relates to race, gender, and sexuality. Roderick briefly discussed the Jackson State Massacre that occurred in 1970, during which Black student protestors were shot and killed by police officers, and shared how student protestors, particularly Black students, are still regarded and labeled as criminals and thugs on college campuses. 

Listen to this episode to gain more insight into police expansion on student campuses and to learn more about how campus police should protect students.


Episode 9: A Peak in Time: Understanding the History of Higher Education 

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Philo Hutcheson, professor, higher education historian, and author of the book “A People's History of American Higher Education,” to join us. In this interview, Philo talks about the importance of studying the history of higher education and why it is important to understand the foundations on which our colleges and universities are built upon. Philo argues that issues such as race, class, and gender cannot be ignored within higher education and encourages administrators to glean lessons from our past to gain more knowledge on approaching present challenges related to student support and equity.

Listen to this episode to gain more insight into the history of American higher education and its impact on higher education today.


Episode 8: Student Voice and Student Choice: How Educators Can Foster Equity and Student Agency

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Josue Falaise, CEO of GOMO Educational Services, to join us. GOMO Educational Services is an organization that provides professional development and executive-level training that focuses on equity to build the capacity of adults in fostering student agency. Josue highlights his professional career, where he started as an elementary school teacher and later became a middle and high school educator. There, he was able to see K-12 curricula and methods of socialization first hand, which led him to seek and create tangible change. 

Listen to this episode to learn more about Josue’s road to launching GOMO Educational Services and teaching equity between educators and students in the K-12 landscape. 


Episode 7: Dismantling American Exceptionalism and Deconstructing White Privilege in Predominantly White Classrooms

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Kate Slater, Associate Director and Manager of Programs for the Institute for Recruitment of Teachers (IRT) and lecturer at the University of New Hampshire (UNH). Kate tells us of her work with the IRT, as the organization attempts to move towards racial equity in the educational sector, and her passion for engaging in anti-racist work, both as a scholar and an educator. Kate highlights the course that she teaches at UNH, “Teaching Race,” and the ‘unlearning/relearning’ approach that she has developed for White students to conceptualize and deconstruct their White privilege. Kate aims to reconstruct the ways that White folks perceive race, American history, and American exceptionalism so the next generation of educators can positively influence generations after them and actively work towards true racial liberation.

Listen to this episode to learn more about Kate’s experience working with the Institute for Recruitment of Teachers (IRT) and as an educator engaging in anti-racist work at a Predominantly White Institution.


Episode 6: Authenticity in Public Spaces: Maintaining A Confident Sense of Self in Leadership Roles 

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Elmira Mangum, the founder and CEO of EM Plus 3 LLC and the former president of Florida A&M University, to join us. Though it was never a goal of hers, Elmira shares her journey to becoming the first woman president of the university, what she has learned from holding various leadership positions, and how she applies leadership lessons to all of her professional endeavors. As the current CEO of EM Plus 3 LLC, Elmira focuses on leadership training, efficiency analysis, revenue enhancement, and financial planning in higher education. Elmira has also worked as a mentor for our “MSI Aspiring Leaders” initiative and has worked closely with her mentee to impart relevant knowledge on how to persist through the presidential process. Elmira speaks of how she holds herself in public spaces, owns her identity, regardless of what others may perceive, and triumphs as a result of her tenacious spirit. 

Listen to this episode to learn more about how Elmira has carried herself throughout her professional career to achieve success in her various leadership roles within the realm of higher education.


Episode 5: Does Higher Education Provide Enough?: Transformative Career-Oriented Paths at Paul Quinn College

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Michael Sorrell, President of Paul Quinn College, a Historically Black College, to join us. President Sorrell talks to Proctor Institute Executive Director Marybeth Gasman about his journey toward becoming president of Paul Quinn, his transformative efforts to restructure higher education so as to better serve the needs of under-resourced students and communities, and how other institutions can implement similar changes. 

Listen to this episode to learn more about President Sorrell’s journey to becoming Paul Quinn’s longest-serving president and his initiatives to revamp Paul Quinn’s curriculum requirements and support systems for the institution and its students. 

Episode 4: Advocating for Voting Rights on College Campuses: A Student's Perspective

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Evan Marlbrough, Vote Everywhere Ambassador for the Andrew Goodman Foundation and Student President for the Young Democrats at Georgia State University, to join us. Evan talks about his experience as a student voting rights activist on campus and his involvement with the Andrew Goodman Foundation as an outlet for advocating for increased student voting on campus. As a student leader, Evan encourages students to become more democratically engaged and seeks to educate young people on the power and value of their voice in policy implementation and change. 

Listen to this episode to learn more about Evan’s journey in advocating for voting rights on campus and gain some insight on why student voting advocacy is essential for college campuses.

Episode 3: It Takes a Community: An Asset-Based Approach to Fostering Excellence at Bloomfield College

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invite Marcheta Evans, President of Bloomfield College, an institution that is dually designated as a Predominately Black Institution (PBI) and a Hispanic Serving Institution (HSI). President Evans talks about her road to becoming president of Bloomfield, the factors that have influenced her interest in leading the 150-year institution, and some of the initiatives she plans to enact as president. 

Listen to this episode to learn more about President Evans' journey to becoming the first Black woman to be president of PBI/HSI Bloomfield College. 

Episode 2: Yeah, Mentoring Matters, but Let's Talk About Sponsorship: Positioning Graduate Students of Color for Career Success

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we invited Levon T. Esters, Associate Professor in the Department of Agricultural Sciences Education and Communication at Purdue University, to talk about how he approaches mentoring students and strategies for positioning graduate students of color for career advancement. Levon is also the Director of the award-winning Mentoring@Purdue program (M@P) and discusses how he uses his mentoring philosophy and sponsorship to support underrepresented graduate students in the STEM-based agricultural and life sciences disciplines in Purdue University’s College of Agriculture.

Listen to this episode to learn more about how Levon helps foster excellence in his advisees, and what he believes mentors can gain from adopting sponsorship as a strategy to help position graduate students of color for career advancement. 

Episode 1: Asian American Native American Pacific Islander Serving Institutions (AANAPISIs): A Symbolic Signal for Supporting Asian American and Pacific Islander College Students

In this episode of the Varying Viewpoints podcast series, we collaborate with the National Center on Institutional Diversity (NCID) at the University of Michigan to share research and provide insight into the American Native American Pacific Islander Serving Institution (AANAPISI) designation. Thai-Huy Nguyen, Assistant Professor of Education at Seattle University, and Bach Mai Dolly Nguyen, Assistant Professor of Education at Oregon State University, discuss the significance of the AANAPISI designation and how the designation is a signal of support and resources provided for Asian American and Pacific Islander (AAPI) collegians. Both researchers also talk about their role in recent series produced by NCID, What Are AANAPISIs? A Series on the Opportunity and Equity of Asian American Pacific Islander College Students, and how they hope the series along with their ongoing scholarship can move the conversation on the AANAPISI designation forward. 

Listen to this episode to learn more about AANAPISIs and the work both Thai Nguyen and Dolly Nguyen are engaged in to elevate these institutions and the students they serve.